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link 12.06.2021 10:40 |
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Subject: Англия, 1950 гг. Beards, Chelsea set, heiresses Может, кто-нибудь хорошо знает страноведение? Речь идёт о 1950-х гг. в Англии. Что могут означать в данном контексте эти слова?I thought with a sigh what an easy time parents and guardians had had in those days – no Teddy boys, no Beards, no Chelsea set, no heiresses, or at least not such wildly public ones; good little children we seem to have been, in retrospect. Заранее спасибо. |
| Все перечисленное возникло после 1950-х годов, о том-то и речь в приведенном предложении. Дальше копайте в Википедии, там же и русские соответствия найдете; вот вам для затравки: |
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"Beards": https://www.mic.com/articles/124065/here-are-the-most-popular-beard-styles-over-the-past-16-decades "Chelsea set" means people from the fashionable Chelsea district of London who have lots of disposable income and therefore convertible cars, yachts, etc. |
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link 12.06.2021 11:14 |
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Контекста мало. Но вообще beard это борода и есть, человек, нанятый изображать гетеросексуального партнёра для гомосексуалиста/лесбиянки. Chelsea set - тусовка. Была такая компания разнообразных модников, богатеев, бездельников, тусовщиков, которые задавали моду. Heiress, собственно, богатая наследница. |
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"Heiresses" - это про "светских львиц". "... Since the 1960s, socialites have been drawn from a wider section of society more similar to the American model, with many socialites now coming from families in business or from the world of celebrity." |
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Как Челси сет может быть 'people from the fashionable Chelsea district of London who have lots of disposable income', если речь про родителей, опекунов, и гуд Литл чилдрен? Вообще, челси - это стрижка, правда, появилась она позже. |
| При гуглении "Chelsea set" в Картинках показывает набор игрушек Barbie Club Chelsea. |
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" Как Челси сет может быть 'people from the fashionable Chelsea district of London who have lots of disposable income', если речь про родителей, опекунов, и гуд Литл чилдрен?" Вы разве по смыслу предложения не видите, что речь идет о том, что в 50-х ЕЩЁ не было ни тедди-боев, ни бородатых "лесорубов", ни "модной тусни" из Челси, ни светских львиц. "... good little children we seem to have been, in retrospect" - это про то, что в прошлом, в 1950-е, мы были просто милыми детьми по сравнению с тем, что последовало потом. |
| "Quant and Plunkett-Greene, incredibly, were still just 21 but already they were at the centre of what became known as the ‘Chelsea Set’. Quant once described them as a “bohemian world of painters, photographers, architects, writers, socialites, actors, con-men, and superior tarts”. The writer Len Deighton was of a different opinion and in his London Dossier described the same group as a “nasty and roaring offshoot of the deb world”. He was upset that the old amiable mixture of arty rich and bohemian poor were having to move out of the best parts of Chelsea to beyond World’s End and even as far as, God forbid, “cisalpine Fulham”." |
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link 13.06.2021 21:11 |
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Aiduza +1 The term 'the Chelsea set' [where 'set' = 'group of people'] didn't appear in Britain until the 1960s, as Aiduza says, whereas this article describes the 1950s. Chelsea is a wealthy area of west London. The 'Chelsea set' = young, wealthy people -- typically socialites and 'social climbers' who spent a lot of money and flaunted their wealth -- from the Chelsea area. Later on the meaning was expanded slightly to mean 'young, wealthy people from any affluent area of London/the UK who flaunt their wealth'. The Barbie Doll Company probably adopted the term later for one of its ranges of girls' dolls -- but this will have been a much later use and not the original (1960s) meaning. Beards (and long hair) became popular amongst young people during the hippy era of the 1960s, of course. They weren't fashionable amongst young people in the 1950s. |
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